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	<title>Comments on: This is going to shock you</title>
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	<description>digging deep, stretching up, reaching out</description>
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		<title>By: The Problem of Certainty &#171; Missio Dei</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Problem of Certainty &#171; Missio Dei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of the tensions I&#8217;ve observed between the traditional church and the emerging church is the debate between truth and doubt, or certainty and faith. I hear a lot from people who don&#8217;t like that those in the emerging church don&#8217;t have all the answers and are okay with that. Certainty is this intense drive to prove out what we believe by finding every known doctrinal point that will build up our point. It creates a way of seeing the world that is often missing quite a bit of humility. Mark Driscoll&#8217;s confession (ht) is a shockingly simple example of what I mean. The desire for certainty often comes at the expense of relationship, which is what Jesus was trying to accomplish in the first place. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of the tensions I&#8217;ve observed between the traditional church and the emerging church is the debate between truth and doubt, or certainty and faith. I hear a lot from people who don&#8217;t like that those in the emerging church don&#8217;t have all the answers and are okay with that. Certainty is this intense drive to prove out what we believe by finding every known doctrinal point that will build up our point. It creates a way of seeing the world that is often missing quite a bit of humility. Mark Driscoll&#8217;s confession (ht) is a shockingly simple example of what I mean. The desire for certainty often comes at the expense of relationship, which is what Jesus was trying to accomplish in the first place. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually it was "ah, yep sure do" - very different tone between ah and uh

no, not teasing or sarcastic, just acknowledging that I know who you are now :)

glad to see you commenting here :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually it was &#8220;ah, yep sure do&#8221; - very different tone between ah and uh</p>
<p>no, not teasing or sarcastic, just acknowledging that I know who you are now <img src='http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>glad to see you commenting here <img src='http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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