Comments on: reflections on church planting as kingdom living http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/11/07/reflections-on-church-planting-as-kingdom-living/ digging deep, stretching up, reaching out Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:42:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Mak http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/11/07/reflections-on-church-planting-as-kingdom-living/comment-page-1/#comment-1455 Mak Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:40:00 +0000 http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/11/07/reflections-on-church-planting-as-kingdom-living/#comment-1455 Thank you brad for engaging this - since I haven't read the book I don't really have much to say to it. Thank you brad for engaging this - since I haven’t read the book I don’t really have much to say to it.

]]> By: brad brisco http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/11/07/reflections-on-church-planting-as-kingdom-living/comment-page-1/#comment-1454 brad brisco Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:33:30 +0000 http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/11/07/reflections-on-church-planting-as-kingdom-living/#comment-1454 It certainly isn't fair to Murray to go on this small sampling of his book. I wish I had the book in front of me but it is at another location. However I will say that Murray is a VERY important corrective to the vast majority of church planting books and conferences, actually it could be said of most church conferences in general. Many church planters go to a "field" to plant with a model/approach/type of church in their mind rather than it really being driven theologically and missiolocally. (Again I was once very guilty of this.) Many planters go to the latest church planting conference and learn a new or tweaked model of church planting and then they say to themselves "I am going to plant that kind of church." Like it or not the truth is that it is driven by pragmatism. We can say "oh I have thought theologically and that has influenced my missiology" but I have been around enough to know and see that that simply isn't the case many times. It funny how many times I have heard people say "well Murray's book certainly isn't a how-to book on church planting." To which I say PRAISE GOD! There are enough of those out there. It certainly isn’t fair to Murray to go on this small sampling of his book. I wish I had the book in front of me but it is at another location.

However I will say that Murray is a VERY important corrective to the vast majority of church planting books and conferences, actually it could be said of most church conferences in general. Many church planters go to a “field” to plant with a model/approach/type of church in their mind rather than it really being driven theologically and missiolocally. (Again I was once very guilty of this.) Many planters go to the latest church planting conference and learn a new or tweaked model of church planting and then they say to themselves “I am going to plant that kind of church.” Like it or not the truth is that it is driven by pragmatism. We can say “oh I have thought theologically and that has influenced my missiology” but I have been around enough to know and see that that simply isn’t the case many times.

It funny how many times I have heard people say “well Murray’s book certainly isn’t a how-to book on church planting.” To which I say PRAISE GOD! There are enough of those out there.

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