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	<title>Comments on: Bathtub musings and a bit of a rant</title>
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	<description>digging deep, stretching up, reaching out</description>
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		<title>By: Mak</title>
		<link>http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/06/19/bathtub-musings-and-a-bit-of-a-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, I think a little bit of cynicism is good ;)

thanks for your comment and for popping over here :) welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, I think a little bit of cynicism is good <img src='http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>thanks for your comment and for popping over here <img src='http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Brink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makeesha,

I think we all need to go through this conversation at some point.  It's the subtle realization that what Christendom promised us is not really what the gospel is about.  It hard sometimes realizing that everything really is sacred and learning how to redeem even the darkest of people.  It requires that we conquer our fear, which is not the easiest of things to do.  Being in the world but not of it requires a willingness to trust in the dark, and sometimes we're not so good at that.

The question for me is how not to become cynical and to keep love at the center of my heart.  How do I begin to shed the trappings of what so many churches teach me that it means to follow Jesus when it "feels" so far from the truth.  To let go of that means to be subversive in a way that often feels like I'm taking on the giant.  The risk is that I could be wrong.  Thank God for grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makeesha,</p>
<p>I think we all need to go through this conversation at some point.  It&#8217;s the subtle realization that what Christendom promised us is not really what the gospel is about.  It hard sometimes realizing that everything really is sacred and learning how to redeem even the darkest of people.  It requires that we conquer our fear, which is not the easiest of things to do.  Being in the world but not of it requires a willingness to trust in the dark, and sometimes we&#8217;re not so good at that.</p>
<p>The question for me is how not to become cynical and to keep love at the center of my heart.  How do I begin to shed the trappings of what so many churches teach me that it means to follow Jesus when it &#8220;feels&#8221; so far from the truth.  To let go of that means to be subversive in a way that often feels like I&#8217;m taking on the giant.  The risk is that I could be wrong.  Thank God for grace.</p>
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