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	<title>Comments on: We don&#8217;t really love people</title>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
		<link>http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/2007/02/16/we-dont-really-love-people/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robbymac, good to see you here :)

you're all about opening cans of worms aren't you buddy? ;)  It's so interesting to me how this sort of "thing" just doesn't seem all that "radical" to me. I mean, I see how it deviates from the status quo but in terms of theology, doctrine, etc. the idea of embracing the other and seeing God in the other makes total sense. And the idea of a Christian playing in a "secular" rock band makes total sense. Which is why when I face opposition for my ideas I end up stuttering and stammering for a response because it seems bizarre to me that people would have a problem with it. Or I get defensive and angry - which of course is not exactly the most effective way of dealing with opposition hehe.

I hear sermons and read books about being missional and having a sort of radical orthodoxy and I resonate so strongly with it I have to remember that there has to be a Spirit-working there in order for change or even motion to happen. Extending grace to the preservationists is something I am finding very very difficult to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robbymac, good to see you here <img src='http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>you&#8217;re all about opening cans of worms aren&#8217;t you buddy? <img src='http://www.swingingfromthevine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s so interesting to me how this sort of &#8220;thing&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t seem all that &#8220;radical&#8221; to me. I mean, I see how it deviates from the status quo but in terms of theology, doctrine, etc. the idea of embracing the other and seeing God in the other makes total sense. And the idea of a Christian playing in a &#8220;secular&#8221; rock band makes total sense. Which is why when I face opposition for my ideas I end up stuttering and stammering for a response because it seems bizarre to me that people would have a problem with it. Or I get defensive and angry - which of course is not exactly the most effective way of dealing with opposition hehe.</p>
<p>I hear sermons and read books about being missional and having a sort of radical orthodoxy and I resonate so strongly with it I have to remember that there has to be a Spirit-working there in order for change or even motion to happen. Extending grace to the preservationists is something I am finding very very difficult to do.</p>
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		<title>By: robbymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ari,

A drummer in the Celtic rock band I was once a part of qualifies as an amazing friend, despite his pagan beliefs, occasional mock of my Jesus-faith, and questionable morality (hey, he's a drummer, after all).

You see, once upon a time, my wife Wendy was in the hospital and they thought she was having a stroke. The drummer heard about it, and came and sat in the ICU with me for over five hours.

That's what friends do, and he was a blessing to me that day.

Of course, that probably opens another can o' worms about my presence as a Christian in a secular band playing pubs, bars, and festivals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ari,</p>
<p>A drummer in the Celtic rock band I was once a part of qualifies as an amazing friend, despite his pagan beliefs, occasional mock of my Jesus-faith, and questionable morality (hey, he&#8217;s a drummer, after all).</p>
<p>You see, once upon a time, my wife Wendy was in the hospital and they thought she was having a stroke. The drummer heard about it, and came and sat in the ICU with me for over five hours.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what friends do, and he was a blessing to me that day.</p>
<p>Of course, that probably opens another can o&#8217; worms about my presence as a Christian in a secular band playing pubs, bars, and festivals&#8230;</p>
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